Podcast: Defense against the AI Arts

The rise of generative AI products for commercial use is probably the fastest and most controversial of any technological advance in recent history. Governments are scrambling to understand and regulate its use. Billions are being invested in development. Perhaps, as a sign of our collective tech fatigue, however, the consumer interest in the technology has failed as skepticism regarding its safety has increased. Just last month the perceived leader in large language model platform, OpenAI, announced a potential bankruptcy in 2024 unless significant new investment is forthcoming.

Still, the genie is out of the bottle as the saying goes and there is no putting it back. What is left is figuring out what wishes we can make won’t result in outright disaster.

We gathered a panel of experts to talk about how we can defend against the malicious use of the technology while we mine the benefits. The complete transcript will be published in the October Special Issue on AI security and distributed in print at the it-sa Expo and Congress in Nuremberg, Germany. and to subscribers to our online publications


  • Hyrum Anderson, co-author of my favorite book of 2023, Not With a Bug But a Sticker, which explains how vulnerable AI’s are to corruption and misuse. Anderson is an accomplished data scientist with a historical understanding of the tech going back decades.
  • Haseeb Khan, Generative AI Ambassador and Senior Artificial Intelligence Engineer at Google, who believes that getting AI solutions right will overwhelmingly succeed, those that get it wrong will fail.
  • Milan Lazich, a senior marketing executive with deep experience in the technology world, representing the user world concerns and best practices in the use of generative AI.
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The conversation looks into why large corporations are so positive about the technology; companies focused on defending against malicious or unethical use of AI and how effective those products are; and concerns about the use of AI in general communications practices.

Lou Covey is the Chief Editor for Cyber Protection Magazine. In 50 years as a journalist he covered American politics, education, religious history, women’s fashion, music, marketing technology, renewable energy, semiconductors, avionics. He is currently focused on cybersecurity and artificial intelligence. He published a book on renewable energy policy in 2020 and is writing a second one on technology aptitude. He hosts the Crucial Tech podcast.

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